today. none of them are here. wi on set mike halperin, chairman of deutsche and company and alex wagner. and in washington, jonathan. good morning, everyone. here's our clip from speaker boehner. at the end of last week, after the decision was announced, i mean the nation seemed torn between two sides. couldn't figure out where they were going, okay. so the question this morning is, based on that decision that was announced, it's in all the papers, what happened with tom cruise and katie holmes? >> exactly. >> what do you think? >> contract was up. five years, merely around to the

date. >> you really think it was a contractual deal. >> oh, yeah. i know my e-mail will be hacked. >> i was crushed. i wasç crushed. i was surprised. >> a lot of us were. >> in my mind, in my mind i have that memory, that fleeting memory of love as we saw it on the couch. do we have that clip? look it. how could this end? he loved her. >> i'll reveal a little thing. you and i wept together over the weekend. >> what did you say to me? >> mike, it's not your life. it doesn't mean your marriage is not working. don't own it. >> said to you the next thing we know travolta is out of the house. but anyway. >> that's why this man should be running a network. he clearly understood the definition of pivot approximately health care. look, as a family man i just hope the kids are okay and everybody is happy and i, for

one, don't like, to you know, jump into other people's hardships and i wish them bothwell. >> wow. >> there's a story behind the numbers. what are they saying in iowa? >> you can spend your entire holiday week just reading about this story. >> we will. >> i will. i am a "new york post" man on their coverage on stories like this. there was a van parked outside of katie's secret new york apartment. >> i'll give you one media insight. we've come to a place now where it's so fascinating, inside there's an alec baldwin was on the cover of "vanity fair" and on the cover of "vanity fair" is a flight attendant kissing him. which is one more proofç it doesn't matter how celebrities stumble the more they stumble the higher we elevate them. this cover on "vanity fair" which is the pinnacle of

celebrityism does not happen if he dsn't screw up. do we care about tom cruise as an actor any more? not so much? >> will we see a katie holmes "vanity fair" cover? >> if she wants it. >> before we ask for jonathan's insight we should announce to the world it's his birthday today. it's appropriate we sing a little bit of a happy birthday to him. ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday to you >> jonathan? >> the contract was up. you know she decided five years, i have an option to get out, i'm getting out. that's my view of it. >> have you seen the "new york post"? do they get anything in washington with all the power outages. the "new york post" and "daily news" and rue purity murdoch tweeting, what was his tweet? >> something strange. >> about scientology.

>> possibly evil about these people. double down on it too. >> there it is. scientology back in news. very weird cult but big, big money involved with tom cruise either number two or three in hierarchy. how long will it be today before someone cancels rupert's tweeting ability? >> he's been tweeting for a while, çthough. >> one of the ten biggest developments in tweeting history. rupert's accounts. if you string them all together you have a pretty decent book. >> all right. let's get to the real world now. the president's health care law is moving back to capitol hill where it took congress three years before rachg the halls of the supreme court. thursday's ruling surprised many by preserving the hearth law's individual mandate under congress's power of taxition. nancy pelosi addressed it. >> the president was adamant

saying the individual mandate is not a tax. in fact his own solicitor general went to the supreme court and said this is constitutional under the taxes authority of congress. >> that's right. >> this is not how it was sold to the american people. >> it's a penalty. it's a penalty that comes under the tax code for the 1% of the population who may decide that they are going to be free riders. most people are not affected by it. >> it's a tax. >> it's not a tax. it's a penalty for free riders. >> you saw all the leaders out, thexé congressional leaders and nancy pelosi is probably the most ferocious defender of the law of anybody on the capitol hill and the republican leaders were, i thought, pretty good at finessing the fact that romney has to deal with the legacy of romney care. there's a new reuters poll that shows a slight uptick of the

approval of the law. not much. but i think you both sideç now with their lines drawn. and the president's side still has the bigger burden because the law remains less popular than popular. >> you mentioned the republicans come back. do we have the clip of mitch mcconnell and the fox interview? i have to read the script first. what else do you want me to do here. republicans said some parts of the law are worth preserving or rework but mitch mcconnell appeared to hedge when asked how millions of americans could afford health care without the president's law. >> what specifically your going to do to provide universal coverage to the 30 million people who are uninsured? >> that is not the issue. the question is how can you go step by step to improve the american health care system. it is already the finest health care system in the world. >> but you don't think -- >> what our friends -- >> you don't think it's an issue? >> let me tell you what we're

not going do. we're not going to turn the american herlt system into a western european system. >> aalexandria? >> mcconnell kept repeating the difference to the high risk pools. they don't have a plan. they got the repeal part down. the replace part is anybody's guess. that's a rob for the republicans. that's going to be the question heading in to november. mitt romney will get asked okay then what your going to do and there's no consensus. >> jonathan, what's your moderate middle of the road view of this? >> i feel like alex and i are the same person the problem is that the republicans are about ç repeal, repeal, repeal but never talked about what will go in its place. right now there are millions of people benefiting from the american, the affordable care act, some who definitely realize it, others who don't and once the republicans, if they succeed in repealing it, how are they --

what are they going to say to those people who are benefiting from things like not being dumped from health care because they have a pre-existing condition or they get sick or their kids who are 26 and younger get dumped off their health insurance plans because republicans repealed obamacare. i think that sooner or later mitch mcconnell and the senate, john boehner in the house, mitt romney will have to say specifically what they are going to do. the president has his plan. it was declared constitutional. we know where the president is. it's about time we know where the republicans are. >> here's where the discussion on health care will go in the coming 90 days as we get to the election. far, far away. you remember after the day we killed osama bin laden and there was a fervor, a well deserved fervor and then ten days later the world was on. this is not a discussion that either side dramatically wins. obama got a little bump because

he's a winner but because it's muddy and viewers and consumers glaze over i think both sides very quickly are going to go back to the economy, obama defending the stay the course romney saying we can't stay this course. the health care discussion will dissipate very quickly. i don't think issue in november. >> i disagree. >> what the hell do you know? >> donny has a good point. >> first of all, with regard to health care, are we going to have to call a doctor to get all that stuff off your wrist. how much stuff do you have on your right wrist. >> my little daughter london before she went to sleepaway camp gave me this. here right now, as she tunes into "morning joe" up in the adirondack's she's weeping. >> donny has 612 pieces of rope.

>> my daughter is weeping because she gave her daddy a present. >> i disagree with you too. >> i disagree with a lot of what was said. number one, there's a difference between the provisions that are popular, that jonathan outline and universal coverage. i don't think republicans feel they will lose against universal coverage because we had universal coverage in this country. for whatever reason americans don't care about it as much as other people in other industrialized democracies. there's a republican set of ideas. they don't go to universal coverage. but governor romney has in terms of governor romney he's pretty vague on other things he has a specific health care plan. there's holes in it but it matches up with what republicans want. the reason i don't think it will go away one of romney's strongest arguments on the economy. he said the president wasted a year and a half on this. >> it's muddy forç both.

>> he's for repealing a law that's unpopular. it's an expensive law. >> what was your question, jonathan? >> mark, what are governor romney's specific plans? he says he has a health care plan but there are holes in it. i'm hard pressed to, you know, enuncy at it what they are. >> basically got three parts. he's for making medicaid a block grant to the states. he's for doing what paul ryan is doing for medicare and for a bunch of stuff in the private, in individual -- >> one more time. you put the paul ryan plan out there, you put the paul ryan budget plan out there that alone is a complete revisitation. >> guys, $10 million to spend. last week of the election. am i talking about health care or jobs day one. both side will drift away. >> they are connected. >>donny, also --

>> messages are single minded. i really believe you. remember i told you on this day let's mark it down this will drift. >> on message, i mean in mark's reference to universal health care plan nobody really knows in this country what universal health care plan means because we never had it and this health care proposal that's been ruled constitutional for the moment it's incredible as smart as these people appear to be around president obama and the president's health that they have not been able to explain the benefits. >> i sat with ten people over the weekend atç one of these et hampton salons, smart people, we're listening to the insurance brokers at the table. nobody understood what the hell any of this means. >> what about this pitch? on behalf of the obama campaign in this health care plan. if they start saying look it, the first president who really proposed universal health care,

let's take fdr out of the equation was harry truman. that's over 60 years ago. for over 60 years we have tried to give health care to american citizens. we final lui achieve some sense of that. the opposition's idea is to destroy the whole thing. not component parts of it,the whole thing. with no alternative. we waited 60 years to get this much and they want to take everything away. people understand that. >> i think a lot of americans do but for whatever reason there are tens of millions of americans unlike people in other industrialized democracies think we can't afford universal health care or something that the government should do. i think the president can win that fight in good economic times easily. in bad economic times it's harder. >> agree. i just didn't understand how so many people you referenced to, you know, east hampton and sitting around in a $25 million

seaside home. >> oceanfront. >> i don't understand -- again, i guess it gets back to lack of explanation why so many people can be so opposed to a plan that 60% of it has not yet been implemented. i'm sure we look at the same sort of polls. the american electorate is divided and a huge part of that is confusion. i mean let's say 45% disagree, 30% agree, another 30% have no idea what's in there. once you start getting your check back from your insurance company, that was from before the ruling, but, you know, once you start getting your checks back, once your kid is on the plan until he's 26 years old, once you're no longer denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions, once there's experience with this plan i'm with you p- mike. >> that may be a great argument. the proof will be in the next three or four months how many

democrats are going to put in their ads i vote forward the affordable care act. how many republicans -- >> i don't think it will be -- >> republicans will say my opponent vote forward higher tax, more regulation. >> jonathan, this gets to one of my theories. we just showed the poll numbers. you heard alex talk about this stuff. what about this theory that the opposition to health care, there's probably opposition to the hearth plan, no doubt about it, there's opposition. but a lot of the opposition is rooted into, i don't know how i feel about obama himself. not so much the health care plan. >> i mean that could be part of it. also, as we saw over the weekend people were parsing out the opposition to obamacare and there's some people who don't like theç affordable care act because they don't think it went far enough so the actual opposition to like people who actually really hate this law because they think it's a bad

idea is actually even smaller. but, again, from stimulus to the health care law to a whole bunch of other things that the president has tried to do since coming into office on january 20th, 2009 folks have used all sorts of arguments and policy disputes as proxy fights for the bigger things which is they don't like this guy. it doesn't matter what he wants to do. no matter how good it is for the country. overall they will oppose him. how many times have we seen ideas that the republicans have championed for years, bipartisan ideas that have come out of congress that the president says okay yeah great let's do it it's right for the country and the republicans say oh,never mind. it's happened over and over again. great question. >> jonathan, how do you get those knots in your tie? what is that? it's like not even a knot. what is that?

>> donny, i can't believe i have to explain this to you. to do the double windsor -- >> double windsor? >> length of the tie but also -- donny it's the thickness of the tie. so that's what determines the sort of grandeur of the knot. >> do you have any calipers there? >> go to çcharvet. >> thank you, sir. i appreciate that. there was such clarity to that. >> chief romney guy, kevin maybe we'll get him up. an exclusive "first look" in the top stories. also ahead we'll talk to dave walker who actually does know about, you know, spending and money and what's up. nbc political the director chuck

todd. "time" magazine joe klein talks about his article "how to die." and legendary sports writer frank deford. tiger woods looks like a tiger and why he may still be the best in the world. but first here is bill karins. >> all good news. amazing weekend. we're just kind of finishing up what is going to go down as one of the hottest heat waves in our country. we broke record highs in many cities. we broke all time highs. we broke all time june highs. it was hot. it was plain and simple. yesterday it was 100 plus from st. louis all the way down through the southeast. we're 106 in columbia, south carolina. over the weekendux there was on temperature of 113 in south carolina. could have been the hottest temperature ever recorded in the state. so today what will change? there are more clouds in the southeast. we have a couple of showers and thunderstorms. that will cool you off a couple

of degrees. but there's no significant relief from this incredible heat.ç we may have dropped at it couple of degrees but still very hot. let me take you to the next three days. still 100 plus from st. louis to atlanta to charlotte. everybody else is in the 90s. tomorrow more of the same, hundreds continue if not expand in areas of the central plains and then finally for the fourth of july it's just going to be very hot. under a heat dome and until we get a strong cold front to cool us off we'll see this heat wave continuing. no record time highs but 95 to 105 pretty much every where east of the rockies. incredible stuff and it continues for your fourth. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. the president from interview: i talk to folks on rope lines and

in coffee shops. people who have been out of work. you can tell it wears on them. narrator: he's fought to pull us out of economic crisis for three years. and he still is. president obama's plan keeps taxes down for the middle class, invests in education and asks the wealthy to pay their fair share. mitt romney and his billionaire allies can spend milions to distort the president's words. but they're not interested in rebuilding the middle class. he is. i'm barack obama and i

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defo all right. there you go. downtown charlotte, north carolina. no, no. it's washington, d.c. still suffering, withering under the heat and no power. let's take a look at the morning papers. from the los angeles times, mexico has a new president elect this morning, our old friend former governor enrique pena nieto is the apparent winner. he and his soap opera wife have been drawing huge crowds. he represents the revolutionary party. >> what a handoff, mike. "the dallas morning news" says there's a daunting challenge ahead for the george w. bu presidential center as it attempts to archive its first administration entirely from the internet era. staffers that have the job of sorting through ç200 million emails some which will be made available to the public.

>> you don't think about that. >> a lot of smu grad students who can do that. >> but not only that the internet, ten years. >> "new york times" the youth movement that rallied around president obama in 2008 may not thereabout this time around. according to the "times," first file voters are less enthusiastic about getting him re-elected and more likely four years ago to i've themselves as conservative because they i've themselves as unemployed. >> the 18 to 24, the people like alex wagner, they are more conservative. 25 to 30s are more like me. >> the door in the floor will open up. >> here's one mica would have picked from the "times." soda makers are pushing back in new york. lobbyists from coca-cola and other companies are beginning an grief campaign to fight the city's restrictions on large servings of sugary drinks. they called a coalition new yorkers for beverage choices.

they also hope to make at it debate about freedom not fatness. >> freedom to drink by diabetic inducing drink. >> joining us now politicos patrick how did the cast hold up without power this weekend? >> they held up okay. i brought them into the office with me. they are below the camera because they need air conditioning like everybody else. hopefully theyç won't interrup our segment, god forbid. >> what we got going? >> well, my colleague jonathan martin has a piece up about the upcoming veep stakes hat a lot of people in washington are following, the health care ruling has been dropped. what's interesting, he's got a take which is that what you see is not always what you get. meaning that because of the fact that mitt romney in this case can't really talk about who he's vetting or not it kind of gives this great leeway to all these

ospective people to talk about whether or not they are being vetted because it's good business for them. if you are noticed as being on the short list you'll get more exposure and more media attention and help your fundraising, perhaps help out future campaigns whether or not you're being vetted or not. he unearthed an interesting soup from the last time we did this in 2008. the associated press reported cantor was being vetted. they say that was never true at all. in fact, these things kind of frequently do happen, but oftentimes it's not the case. you look at bill richardson, bill richardson seems every time there's a democratic presidential cycle he's always either being vetted or throwing his name in there. he loves to be talked about in those terms. as we talk about the veep stakes be careful what you see because people's names being bandied about aren't being bandied about at all. >> beth myers is running the veep stakes for governor romney. there's going to be no leaks

from her or the people around her. what your hearing? >> there's a lot of buzz and the next couple of days as governor romney is up in new hampshire that there's going to be some meetings with prospective candidates. so people are staking out airports, and looking to see if somebody comes into town. >> what do you fight? -- figure? >> somebody can find -- >> "the washington post" has a story about the romney olympics. it is your guess that any of these potential veep candidates will have to compete in the -- >> how many nails can you nail in a piece of wuood in two minutes. >> it's portman's to lose. >> did you see that story up in the hamptons this morning. >> no because we were debating the health care issue. >> one of the events of the

romney olympics being held up at his home as alex pointed out is how fast you can pound a nail. >> worth noting that competition was added because the governor wasn't winning and was coming in dead last so he changed the rules. >> portman a front-runner. who would be a fascinating long shot that nobody is talking about that would make sense? >> i don't have a name for you but i still think based on my intuition and some reporting an elder states person, maybe a woman. >> condoleezza rice? >> can't be her because of her position on some social issues. there's a name of somebody out thereç like george bush considered don danforth. >> a name? pick one. >> nancy kassellbaum.

>> patrick, rupert murdoch he's busy this weekend on twitter. talking about everything from scientology to the elections, even took a shot at mitt romney's campaign staff saying met romney last week tough old chicago pros will be hard to beat unless he drops old friends from team and hires some pros. doubtful. is he drinking? what do you think is going on here? >> well, you know, mr. murdoch's name has been sort of dragged through the mud of late. you look back in 2008 he was sort of a presumed king maker and his support was certainly bandied about. this time around maybe not so much. the fact of the matter he's a powerful guy not a big fan of mitt romney. the tweet he mentioned is not the first one he used to ding mitt romney. he dinged him a little bit while back saying he wanted more clarity from romney on the issue of immigration. not that a lot of people are concerned about rupert murdoch at this point but he presides

over a powerful empire and he's so vocal and outspoken in his critiques of mitt romney is surprising. >> we were wondering sitting "around the table" whether he's turning into everyone's 96-year-old uncle harold right in front of our eyes. get that tweeting machine, that mobile phone. >> time to opine. >> hashç tag enough. >> mr. magoo had twitter. >> just shows that billionaires are just like the rest of us. >> yeah. thanks a lot. patrick gavin. coming up, tiger swings back into the record books and the bench is clear at san francisco. sports is next. we're going to be right back. the postal service is critical to our economy, delivering mail, medicine and packages.

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welcome back. it's time for sports. tiger woods may not be completely back to the form that saw him dominant the golf world for over a decade but he looked an awful like the tiger of old closing out a milestone win yesterday at the at&t national, his own tournament in bethesda, maryland. woods sporting his sunday red shirt lines up the putt on the

fifth hole and rolls it in for the birdie brings him to seven under for the tournament. bo vanç pelt putting pressure tiger. 15th hole, a barnacle move. he comes up short. tiger gets the roll. sensational putt. >> how many times have you seen meadow that? >> every single time. tiger leading van pelt by one putt. beautiful shot. puts him in position to win. he would tap it in for the victory. tiger fires a final round, eight under for the tournament. third time this year and 74th time his career puts him ahead of jack nicklaus for most wins in pga tour history. he only trails sam snead. after the win tiger talked about

his one to form. >> i remember there was a time when people were saying i could never win again. that was i think about six months ago. here we are. >> to you, baseball now. mid-summer classic, the mlb all-star game is a week over away. starrs were announced yesterday. a lot of familiar faces on the al side. only new guy, texas catcher mike napoli. pablo sandoval will start at third base while catcher buster posy from the çgiants. outfielder milky cabrera will make their first all-star appearance. >> he's having a huge year. >> and the fourth national, in the final running --

>> i like harper. >> chipper jones, swan song. >> expand the roster. >> if you had a one year left -- >> think his numbers are not that interesting. he's an interesting guy to watch. >> it's too good of a story not to do. >> mike trout has made the al team as a reserve. his hitting is better than bryce. who is better? trout or harp center. >> trout. >> is he a better hitter? >> it's a clown question. >> alex wagner coming up huge. >> i have nothing. >> trout is a legitimate 5-2 player. trout is faster. he has a better arm. has more power. >> in terms of longevity i don't know he's thicker. mike trout traveled to canada to take on the blue jays. rodney davis had some trouble getting out of his glove and

trout takes advantage. he makes heads-up play. there's the speed. comes all the way around from second. tied in the eighth. trout puts a charge into one and guess what? park can't hold it. angels go on to win -6 after being left for dead. now tied with the orioles for first place in the wild cardç race and they have more longevity than the orioles, i can guarantee that. two first place giants an reds squaring off in san francisco tied in the sixth. mike's former jamming partner arroyo fires one high and tight. arroyo is a lover not fighter. he's into peace. both benches cleared. no punches were thrown. angels, looks like he had it. can't make the catch. winning run comes around the

score. giants walk off with a 4-3 win. beat the nl west by one game. nationals, braves in atlanta where it's 05 degrees. nats up 3-0 in the first. gets a little careless. let the ball slip by him all the way to the wall. desmond comes all the way from first to score. nationals go up 4-0. ryan zimmerman at the plate in the fifth. the quarter zone shot greatly helping him. every bit of a hanging curveball for a solo shot way into the stands and finished the game with four rbis. nationals roll 8-4 they lead the nl east by 5 1/2 games. >> what's the average attendance >> up to 25,000. >> pretty good. >> not bad at all. if they get a good opponent on the weekends it's close to being completely full. >> your feeling like baseball has for some reason there's no

big stories tm year? for some reason baseball -- >> two big stories. >> harper and trout. >> two kids. somehow the regular season -- >> the nfl in the beginning. >> doesn't seem to have a -- >> seems to me just the opposite. >> no great players. >> i disagree with you. >> up know what else brings the nation together? cro kwum croquet. >> italy take on spain. spain up 2-0 and fernando takes it and gets the east 3-0 spain as a blow-out. three straight major titles back-to-back euro championships. before that spain never defeated italy in a major tournament. like we said, mike, whoever is running the spanish football program take over the country's

economy, become the spanish treasury secretary. >> bring ramos to the u.s. >> three spanish words can you do it? >> they are all swear words. >> hard to look at that. >> what is that? >> is at any time world cup? >> euro. >> which is bigger? the president from interview: i talk to folks on rope lines and in coffee shops. people who have been out of work. you can tell it wears on them. narrator: he's fought to pull us out of economic crisis for three years. and he still is. president

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we are all here to represent the country we love this is for everyone back home it's go time. across america, we're all committed to team usa. here we go. state capital of little rock, ló arkansas. oh, no. that's the white house. >> anyway. even though she's gone for the day in the south of france mika sent in her must reads. the first is from the "new york times," tomç edsel. immigration is a complicated problem for romney because the

issue pits hard core anti-immigration forces on the right against two distinct constituencies, hispanic voters and the business wing of the republican party which wants legal access to the services of millions of low wage workers. all three groups are crucial to romney. by ducking the issue romney may be taking what seems like the safest route but eqivocation carries its own liabilities. romney makes himself vulnerable to the charge of failed leadership that he has levelled against obama. mark halperin, the former governor of massachusetts has a continuing and lingering problem does he not in gaining the votes of hispanic voters in places like colorado, new mexico, arizona and elsewhere because of his immigration stand? >> it does. it may cost him the presidency. we've seen his macro message. obama hasn't done what he said he would do on immigration and

the economy is the issue for anybody. he hasn't done anemia crow message or immigration policy where i suspect they will do soon. it could cost him the presidency and certainly amongst people in washington, amongst even a lot of republicans, amongst elite this is a huge, huge problem. rupert murdoch tweeted about this as well and said if he doesn't solve this, it could cost romney the presidency but republicans a chance to win back the senate. >> what do you think will happen when the obama campaign and the superç p.a.c.s on behalf of oba start replaying the crazy rhetoric from the primaries. >> they put $2 million on spanish speaking commercials and i don't know how he turns that around. to me i don't know how it closes that gap. and i think at the end. day that will be -- >> i'm surprised, mark i don't know if you have been but the few forays the romney team has

been to the latino communities have been so weak. the few spanish language ads. the cement is beginning to harden around this. >> jonathan, go ahead. >> this comes from my colleague charles lane. john roberts compromise of 2012. for chief justiceon roberts the temptation to join the other four gop appointees consequences be damned must have been strong. surely this life long conservative has little use for obamacare. roberts grasped two realities. first in a great national debate no side has monopoly on wisdom. second, conservatism has no future if the country slides into division and dysfunction and so instead of stand tongue legal principles articulated by his conservative breath tlen roberts sacrificed some of those present and persuaded some court liberals to reciprocate.

what emerged was less a legal opinion than a plan for nationaç cohesion, on terms remarkably favorable to conservatives. >> the myth, rumors surrounding justice roberts opinion last week have already begun to surface. what your hearing from washington? >> it's interesting just in general the supreme court, over 30 people knew what this decision was for over a month and nothing leaked out. that's amazing in this age nonetheless. this idea that roberts was originally conservative and then was persuaded by the liberal justices to come on board and sort of chart his own course to do something that would appeal to everybody that ended up leaving his conservative colleagues felt he was betrayed is a story that's getting a lot of traction in d.c. if you talk to the leadership folks, boehner, cantor, mcconnell folks they will not attack john roberts. i've spoken with some rank-and-file people that are very displeased and h may come out publicly and say and he was

traitor. you hear that from the glenn beck crowd. >> he still has a crowd? >> we're going to move on. >> i miss that one. >> to me from reading this and talking with folks it's a historical legacy question. he's going to be there another 20, possibly 30 years. he seems to be in perfect health. if this had gone forward you have this idea that the court has become truly politicized you have another 5-4 leaning conservative. historically how does that look? and the other thing is congress, and look there's a chance, it's a small chance, it's possible the republicans can get the house, the senate and the presidency, they will repeal health care throughç reconciliation. they will do it. it will happen if they win all three. no doubt about it. they will do everything they possibly can just like the democrats did to pass it. they will use every single trick in the book. mitch mcconnell will do things

in the past that were called constitutional afoul of the law. they will do to it repeal health care. >> to luke's point, when he had the position restrain justice. >> the umpire. >> you keep hearing the phrase chief justice roberts as an institutionalist rather than an ideolog. that plays into that. he came back to protect the institution. all those you know, quite artfully done. >> if that was his motivation he definitely succeed. if he voted the other way and 5-4 in dissent by justice kennedy was basically the language and posture adopted by a 5-4 majority this country would be in a low grade civil war. he avoided that. he protected the reputation of the court and a lot of conservatives said he set things up better politically for the republicans in the short and long term.

he has a commerce clause and also by the medicaid provision that they truck down. >> john corn, these folks have to get the republicans elected. they will be sending roberts a free basket. they think it's a winning issue for them. they can get a majority in the senate and have a majority in the house. they still think like that. >> there you go. >> you're listening only tzç experts here. speaking of experts, speaking of experts, chuck todd is ahead. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the spark cash card from capital one,

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the idea that the federal government can mandate that the american people purchase a product is shocking to me. but they made their decision. i respect their ability to make that decision. but all it really does is strengthen my resolve and resolve of republicans here in washington to repeal this awful law. this has to be ripped out by its roots. this is government taking over the entire health insurance industry. the american people do not want to go down this path. they do not want the government telling them what kind of

insurance policy they have to buy, and how much they are going pay for it and if you don't like it we're going to tax you. it has to be ripped out and we need to startover. >> if there's going to be a debate about taxes we welcome that debate. under this administration we've cut taxes for middle class families by $3600. in this very bill, this health care bill it cut taxes for middle class families by another $4,000. the only thing that puts a burden on individuals to pay more is a penalty for those who can afford insurance and choose not to buy it and to be clear that's 1% of the population. welcome back to "morning joe." mark halperin is still with us. donny deutsch is still with us. birthday boy jonathan in washington, d.c. andç the ceo

the come back america initiative and former u.s. comptroller, david walker. you just heard the chief of staff to the president talking about it's less than 1% of the people who will be asked to pay a penalty or a tax depending on where you're coming from. is health care, if the affordable health care act stays on the books what's the prospects for the average american health consumer to have their health premiums lowered within a reasonable period of time? >> not very good. the fact is there's a lot of misinformation and disinformation about the cost of this bill. you know, a lot of people talk about the congressal budget office saying it's going save $100 billion often years but they didn't read the opinion. the opinion had all kinds of caveats to it and they issued a number of different things since then saying it's likely to cost much more.

secondly the chief actuary say it will be more than the politicians claim. i get frustrated when people talk about taxes because deficits and debt represent deferred taxes absent a change in course. and we are running record deficits and mounti ining tax burdens that we have to come to grips with. the republicans need a replace plan. you just can't repeal. you have to know what you'll replace it with and they need to talk more specifically what that might be and i'm happy to go thereç if you want. >> that goes to your point earlier there's no replacement. >> in terms of deficit and debt, there's the point that the cost of actually covering health care is a third of what mitt romney's tax cuts would cost. so if you're talking about fiscal prudence it would seem to be talking one way and walking the other. >> there's not a party of fiscal responsibility. the truth is government has grown too big, promised too

much, waited too the long restructure. we have to constrain spending. we need more revenues. how we do that matters. it's about three-part spending reduction, one part revenue. we need to achieve that through recapturing and control of the budget, reforming social security medicaid and medicare, moving to universal health care that's appropriate, affordable and sustainable. cutting defense and kprech tax reform that raises more revenues. >> i'm saving $123 billion often years. tell me why that's not true? >> because basically the congressional budget office is required by law to assume that whatever congress says they will do they will do. for example, if they say that they are going to cut spending in medicare, if they say that they are going to end up cutting physician payments, if they say they will not allow the subsidies that the federal government is giving to the less well off to increase, then they are required by law to assume that.

on the other hand when there's clear and compelling evidence that those are unreasonable or unsustainable assumptions. >> what's the clear evidence it's not sustainable. >> they haven't done it in the past. takeç medicare. medicare started without a 50% average subsidy. all right. now it's a 75% subsidy. believe it or not, 95% of the people who take part b and d which are voluntary, 95% get a taxpayer subsidy irrespective of their income or wealth. on physician payments we're not slashing. it has given an adverse opinion on the medicare trustees reports saying their assumptions were unreasonable, unsustainable. >> jonathan as david walker is talking in the background music in my mind is playing simpson-bowtes over which nothing happened.

>> you speak a lot of truth and a lot of fiscal truth but what is the appetite here in washington to do, to make all of these hard choices? i would argue and i think we've all argued there's no appetite whatsoever to do any of the thing that are necessary to not only get health care for the people who want it and need it, but also to pull us out of this very deep fiscal deficit hole that we're in. >> jonathan, the biggest deficit that this country has is a leadership deficit. washington is a lag indicator. it tends to act when there's a crisis that fors it to act without adequate due diligence, without appropriate forethought and then it wants to call it leadership. we need to recognize the reality. we need universal hearth in this country but it needs to be appropriate, sustainable and affordable.

we have to move to evidence-based approaches both for payment systems and safe harbors in malpractice and we have to change our premium subsidies. people need more of a stake in health care and all of those things need to happen. so two things have to happen for us to make these tough choice. the president of the united states whoever it is, barack obama second term or mitt romney's first, has to go to the american people with their way forward. so that whoever wins will have a mandate and the first three words of the constitution have to come alive, we the people. we're responsible and accountable for what does or does not happen. the political price ever doing nothing has to be greater than the political price of doing something that involves some shared sacrifice for a much better future. >> there's a group called americans elect that was trying to get a candidate in the race that would foster the kind of debate or these big issues. that's not happening. one of the things that people are frustrated about, how can we force these two serious

gentlemen who have ideas about the economy and the budget to actually have that debate so the voters understand the choice. what can we do force them to engage? >> one of the things we ought to be demanding we taught recognize this election ought to be decided based upon the economy, jobs, and fiscal responsibility. and they are all interrelated. health care is central to all three of those things.ç and at a minimum what we ought to do is make sure one of the presidential debates is focused on this issue with a format that will promote substance and solutions and where the moderator or moderators who know something about the topics and can hold these people accountable. >> like you. >> whoever. >> in terms of, you know, how broken washington is, there seems to be some bipartisan consensus over the issue of tax reform. and you know the president if we talk about whether he gets a second term or not is very much dtd. if he's re-elected there's a lot

of discussion on immigration. but tax reform that might get done. >> absolutely. there's a growing consensus we need comprehensive tax reform. eliminate, second lie date, targets deduct shongiondeductio exinclusions. if we can get the marginal tax rate down 25%, we can deal with the buffet issue in a much more simpler, sustainable fashion if you will. >> you know, mark, luistening t dave walker and the questions being asked of him it reminds me once again both campaigns do a serious disservice to the american people and the american voter, obviously by not addressing these issues. i mean do you agree withthat? it's kind of depressing. >> all those again, because of the fiscal cliff whoever wins has to address. it won't beç optional. but i really think we all need

to be figuring out how do we get them to put forward more specific ideas. neither of them are specific how they address these issues. i worry the only way you can do tax reform let alone other issues like energy is with a strong president. whoever is inaugurated january 20th must be strong. >> guys, it's very easy to point at the office. and i would love to shift the point back to the american populace. we use the word sacrifice. we are a country now where nobody wants to sacrifice. everybody wants these leaders to take a stand. take a stand and tell us what we have to do to reduce this deficit but no matter where you turn, okay, we got to go into entitlements, even the rich guys will defend why you should not raise their tax rates. they are making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year down to people for entitlements. the problem is not with our leaders. the problem is we're an indulged society and the opposite of the

greater generation and nobody wants to say okay i'll give my share. and politicians reflect that. >> that's a key point. look, i'vekó gone to 49 states business community leaders, editorial boards, college campuses, town hall meeting, people haven't been told the truth. they are starved for truth, leadership and solutions. >> i'm telling you, all people do, all these politicians do is poll. if that's a message people really want it's all great for us to sit here and çpontificat but in reality whether it's old or young people, rich or poor people nobody says -- >> donny that's why they are laggards rather than leaders. they don't have the courage to tell people the truth. they don't have the courage to tell people this is the way forward. that's what we need. whoever does it will be rewarded. >> yeah. yeah. >> will be rewarded.

>> one other dirty little secret that keeps them from telling the truth which is all of these choices are easy at 4.5% growth than 2% growth. they are all waiting to see if the economy is better come the end the year which it could be regardless of the outcome of november a lot easier to put a budget forward in january if the economy is growing forward. >> every day in most newspapers you get up and the obituary near the death notice they have an american flag. if you read it it's somebody who is 84, 85, 86 who served in world war ii or korea and you think to yourself they weren't asked to go down and enlist on december 8th, 1941, they voluntarily went. that's still what this country is. >> are you sure with the younger generation? you sure about that. >> yes. >> can i say just one thing,

though. look, i don't -- i under that there's, that the notion of community and shared sacrifice seems to be going the way of the dinosaur. but you're talking about a society that is wildly imbalanced in termsç of the distribution of wealth and we were talking about fiscal responsibility, yeah, there's something to be said for the guys at the very top having to sacrifice a little bit more. looking at income mobility, trend lines in this country. we're not as mobile as we were 30 years ago. northern europe is more mobile than the united states at this point so you're talking about cutting, you know, the deficit and trimming our debt on the backs of education programs, on the very things that would lift people out of poverty and move them up into society. to me that conversation seems, if we're talking about shared sacrifice you're asking -- >> it starts at the top. i know these people. and it galls me that 90% of the people i know would not subscribe they should be paying more taxes. >> you know the wrong rich

people. >> you know the same rich people i know. >> i think we have to keep in mind we lost control of the budget. even when we have a budget which we haven't had in three years, we only control about a third of the spending. and that third of the spending includes all of the constitutional responsibilities under the framers intended and all investments in our future and all investments in young people. so, more and more is on auto pilot. more and more on seniors. more and more on consumption. it's not just about how much you spend it's what you get for what you spend. two areas in this country where we spend double per person and we get below average results. health care and k through 12 education. the answer is not to throw more money at it. the answer is fundamental reforç that focus on initiatives, tr accountability. >> you can't have teachers backed by unions that don't

perform that teach our kids. the unions you can't do this to our teachers. no matter where you go in this country there's no give. >> one of the things you have to recognize is that if you have more bricks and mortar that doesn't necessarily affect the quality of education. >> no. go back to the only way you change education is -- >> incentives. >> education in this country, pub ed caution in this country i would submit is no different than buy agnew air conditioner or car or grocery shopping. people just want the best bang for their buck. and they know they are not getting it when you send a kid to a supposedly terrific suburban grammar school grade 7 and you're to on parent's night your kid is the smartest kid in the class and two nights later your kid is asking you how much is five plus five. you're not getting the best bank for your buck. >> why? >> myriad reasons.

the biggest reason is parenting. parenting. do your homework. you know, put this way. put your video games away. >> agree with that. >> read a book. that's the biggest reason. >> at the end of the day -- >> look it all starts at home. but if they are going school and there's a teacher that's incompetent and been there for 40 years and only reason still there because of a union iç couldn't run a business that way. >> nobody begrudges the notion of reform. but we're not talking about k through 12 but we're talking about pell grants. these are series holes for the american education system. >> but all college degrees are not equal. and just because you have a college degree doesn't mean you're guarantee ad job. >> look at me. >> when we start recognizing where do we need talent, where do we need people with more trees, we need to change our immigration policy, it's gone way too far -- >> here's another example of absence ever debate. pretty informed people around this table.

if we had to write an essay on the difference between president obama and mitt romney on education policy not one of us could do . it's more of a state issue. be nice to know how they differ. >> some of us couldn't write a complete sentence. >> there's a common denominator. if the state, local and federal government level there are huge unfunded obligations for pensions, retiree health care, social security, medicare that lie ahead that we've got to restructure because we're not getting value for those and they constrain our ability to invest and to get value for the future. >> ladies and gentlemen, this was the segment where we actually had someone on who actually knows what they were talking about. >> a nice one. >> david walker thanks very much. >> up next new evidence the obama campaign may be working and how the romney campaign is

dippingç into the clinton playbook. nbc's chuck todd joins us from washington. but first -- >> keep it going. >> i don't know what to say about you. >> that's a first. >> what do i say? hail, bill. >> everything else was a huge story with severe weather, the heat wave continues around the country. leapt me break down what will happen for your fourth of july week. the heat wave has peaked. we can thank clouds and rain for that. we'll still be very hot. we won't see these all-time record highs. humidity is increasing across the middle of the country. as far as forecast, showers and storms are possible especially up there in the great lakes near chicago and as we head towards the fourth of july not a lot changes and the east coast will be ducking thunderstorms while the middle of the country continues to bake. so no end to this heat wave guys. this will continue through july. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. the postal service is critical to our economy,

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barack obama's attacks against mitt romney are just not true. "the washington post" says on just about every level this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue. designee continues to spend millions of dollars perpetuating falsehoods. >> mitt romney has a plan to get america working. barack obama worst job record since the depression. >> so shame on you, barack obama. >> i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >> that's very harsh>ç that was hillary clinton from the 2008 democratic primary making a cameo in a new romney ad. the romney campaign is pushing

back against barack obama's attempt as an out sourcer but the "new york times" reports the attacks on romney's time at bain are hurting him with undecided voters. because we know nothing about this and chuck todd knows everything we're turning to him. chuck todd, what's the deal on this? >> by the way i love when you're sitting next to donny, it's a real, this is not like since felix and oscar, between the differences in dress. i mean, you know, i assume donny -- what donny has on just with his coat is probably more expensive than your wardrobe. >> it is. what you don't know is that donny is wearing no pants today. >> today as opposed t any other day? >> well put, chuck. >> what's interesting about all of this, it was sort of to me the big story of last week that

)áuásv you say that and you roll your eyes, health care was a gigantic story. but the development and it was our poll that saw this, i think first and then you sort of got tacit acknowledgement by the romney campaign or they wouldn't be putting up a negative to beat up a negative which is the obama negative campaign is working. ad campaign in the swing states is working. $25 million in june. this is second month in a row. in fact, this ad campaign from the obama folksç started in ma and in $25 million in may, $25 million in june. two months in a row we saw the president overperform his number in the swing states. why we pointed it out and made a bigger deal of it. we wait until there's a sign of two months in a row to make sure it's not an outlier in your subgroups. what's interesting everybody is saying bain is working. we don't know necessarily it's the bain attack ads yet. the attack ad that obama has

been running has been doing with romney's massachusetts record and saying he touted a business background when he was governor of massachusetts and look what happened to massachusetts. >> what states? >> battleground states from ohio to wisconsin to navy to florida, the 12 -- in this case nine states where the obama campaign is run. >> chuck basically said you're oscar. that's just not a good thing. >> you assume that was an attack. for barnacle that's yes, sir. >> that's an upgrade for me. >> chuck, i want to agree with these or disagree with these two points. first off that the bain attacks which a lot of people say don't work because they are private equity, all that means to me he's a wall street guy. he's that guy. he's not you. it's a big picture paint. not about private equity not about bain he's a wall street

guy. number two on the flip side i think the republicans have been running very effective adsç consistently, i've not seen one ad they've run whether it's day one ad, celebrity ad, hillary clinton ad, these guys are very, very focused. i think both sides are on their a game. >> we only see evidence that one side is work. i'm not saying the romney side isn't working but they haven't gone negative yet. they've done a lot of positive. two other things going on here that i think is being overlooked. the republican ad spending is being done by three different entities. romney, crossroads and the coke brothers americans for prosperity. most of the democratic ad spending 90% run out of chicago by the obama folks. donny you're an ad guy you should know this. you have three people trying to push three different messages versus one entity controlling all of the messages. who will have a more effective

message even if they are outspent. the entity. >> rule number one, single minded one message within a campaign, a campaign overall. huge, huge point, chuck. >> mark, if i can get you away from your obsession with your ipad there, mitt romney brought his ipad to church by the way yesterday. >> de? >> wow. >> but this has the sound and the smell to me of class warfare these ads am i wrong? >> the obama ad? >> well the president has cast his lot with certain point of view about the economy and some people can call that class warfare. it's a pretty effective argument. the republicans sayç our messa is split between the entities. they can say the president is doing more advertising. they may be losing the thing right now because romney may be being define. that's the way the president's campaign success structured from the girng eliminate mitt romney as an acceptable alternative.

there's better coordination between those three entities than most because of the favorite of who is running them but there's no question that right now romney is raising a lot of money and there's a notion why isn't he going on tv more. they are not worried. they think voters will engage post-labor day than now. >> can i ask a question? of course there's class warfare. this is what it's all about. why said dirty word. one side they are starting class warfare. they are inflaming -- this is class warfare. this is what the decisions of this election are about. why do we run from that? of course it's class warfare. >> that phrase doesn't test well. >> that's what it is. the haves and have notes. fundamental difference between democrats and republicans. >> we're at war. their argument is that the president is waging war on the upper class. >> and the other side is waging war on the reverse and keeping the haves having more.

>> can i ask chuck a question. chuck, we talk a lot about some of the language in the president's ads directed at mitt romney, the most recent one said basically mitt romney, a worker said he asked me to build my own coffin, really strong imagery, really strong language. i guess the contention was that people in the immediate area people on theç coast were tryi to parse this move. people in the heartland get the message, basically screw the folks on the coast we'll take this message to blue collar, white workers and it resonates. >> it turns an economic issue into a heart issue. that's why this type of attack on romney has actually always worked, right. if you look at the small history of him. this type of, you know, we see issue whether it's outsourcing, whether people personalize this issue of searching for a job, you know, democrats have been

pounding republicans on this in congressional races for the last couple of cycles. it's been one of the under the radar issues, hasn't bubbled up to the presidential level in '08. now we're seeing it there. but it goes to something and mark was just alluding to this. there's a lot of hand wringing now startinto begin inside republican circles about, okay, did the romney folks comfort themselves too much in ed rendell and cory booker. just because they had democrats criticizing obama for using, forgoing after his time at bain that that somehow was going to make the attacks not work. and he's not defined his time at bain. it's a net negative, bigger net gative in the swing states his business background than in the red or blur states at this point. they got to do something. noticement talking about staples. he's not define his time at bain. he may come to regret that. >> chuck we've workedery hard

this morning to give you a huge lead in for "the daily rundown." >> i'm working today. clearly. we got eric from the romney campaign and i'll do my battleground map. can murm win without any midwestern states. >> how does chuck get badlands. >> what's wrong with me being a badland. donny deutsch is a badland guy. >> mexico has a new president elect. who is the man with a soap opera wife and what does it mean for us north of the boer. mark potter joins us live. "morning joe" back in a minute. [ buzz ] off to work!

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♪ mexican voters hope the projected winner of the presidential race there can help turn around that country's flagging economy and brutal drug war. it's unbelievable what goes on in çmexico. the official preliminary vote shows enrique pena nieto as the apparent winner.

mark potter joins us live from mexico city with more. mark, how are you doing down there? >> reporter: doing fine. nice to talk to you. as you said those results are not yet official, it does appear that enrique pena nieto will be mexico's new president. he was congratulated on overnight by the current president. while many people here are quite surprisedhat his party, it was thrown out 12 years ago many see in him a new president. enrique pena nieto is reaping the awards of a near perfect candidacy. the dashing former governor is married to a famous mexican soap opera star. their fairy tale wedding two years ago was a national event.

>> he has a connection with people particularly with womenh in mexico who throw themselves at him as if he were a rock star. >> reporter: wherever the couple went they drew huge crowds especially women who despite the fact that enrique pena nieto was married couldn't get enough of him, calling him "sweet thing" or "hottie." he admitted cheating on hisç first wife and had two children out of wedlock before she died didn't affect them. >> everybody is captivated by him. he's an amazing figure. >> reporter: enrique pena nieto over came concerns he's with the political party known as the pre, which was voted out 12 years ago after ruling mexico for 71 straight years amid allegations of widespread corruption. of course now as president he'll face mexico's toughest problems including a sluggish economy and that vicious drug war in which

an estimated 55,000 people have been killed and they will certainly test his current popularity. >> mark potter down in mexico city. >> you guys are twins. look at that double screen. you guys are twins right there. potter and barnacle. >> mark has a shirt and tie on. he's legitimate. >> much younger brother, mark potter there. >> thanks very much. although he referenced one of the huge stories of our times that goes uncovered largely in the united states of america. 55,000 casualties in that drug war. just incredible. mark, again, thanks very much. a sign of the times. how local governments are trying to make end meet with the help of corporate sponsors. keep it right here on "morning joe."

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♪ cash-strapped cities across the country are exploring new ways to raise much needed revenue and weç have a report that some of them are going to the extreme, now selling ads in some very public places. >> reporter: like many cities baltimore has long sold ad space on trains and buses. but now politicians here are eing red. how unusual is this idea? >> unusual. >> reporter: this councilman is behind the proposal to sell ads on fire trucks to stop the cash-strapped city from closing three stations including this one for good. >> it's not selling out. having advertising puts contl in the hands of the fire department itself.

>> please don't shut down these companies. >> reporter: the city council just voted to support the measure. >> when i first heard the bill i thought i was idiotic. but after the shock wore off this shows how far that we have to go to think outside-the-box. >> reporter: apparently baltimore isn't the only town thinking outside of that box. city leaders throughout the country are getting creative to make end meet. chicago has sold ad space on so of its iconic bridges to bank of america. philadelphia has rented out a transit station to at&t. and brazil, indiana let k of c advertise their chicken wings on fire hydrants. but some say mixing the two is commercial graffiti. >> we live in a society where we face a constant onslaught of advertising. we think there should be someç spaces preserved to reflect

public values. >> reporter: even in baltimore many are skeptical that the fire truck ads would raise enough money to keep these stations open. what would you say to people who consider this tacky? >> if this is something that keeps your fire company open and your people safe this is something you want to consider. >> reporter: if given the choice between selling ads or slashing services, the councilman says he rather not close any doors. >> the advertising guru of our time, donny deutsch, i got to ask you how effective is this in a makting way. it seems to me if you're a young kid and grow up trusting the police department and fire department, those are, two they got be one and two up there, got to be pretty effective to put your ad on a red fire truck. >> i want to ask that nice lady who was against it would she rather have a fire truck showing up with a viagra logo or no fire truck at all. >> you're not putting out the fire with a viagra logo. >> the young woman from the public interest group, there's a kitchen fire, quick instead of

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♪ he has covered some of the most electrifying athletes in sports history and some of the motor important everyone from wilt chamberlain to billie jean king. joining us on set, contributor to npr, frank deford. author of the book "over time." where do we begin. you've seen so much in sports. >> that's how you get to write a memoir. up get to be old. >> i know this is a difficult question. >> billie jean king. she changed the way we think about women and athletes and i just happen to be covering

tennis at the time because nobody else wanted yw=9ñ i just sort of fell into it and all of a sudden i fall into this cultural icon, this little thing with funny glasses setting a movement and then arthur ash comes along too. so billy jean. >> i'm not sure people today appreciate billie jean king. they know about the battle of the sexes. can you explain why that was so critical at that moment? >> it wasç critical it was a lose-lose situation. she loses a match, everybody says women are so bad they can't beat an old man, you know. she had to win that match. riggs was having fun. she was playing for cause. that's my only time i knew who was going to win. i've never picked a winner yet. but i knew she was not going to let that old man beat per. >> you had an ally called time.

you could think about what you were about to write, whether it be for "sports illustrated," the national or whatever but now with the demands of the internet and, you know, on younger writers get it on to the, you know, the online edition, what impact do you think has that had, if any on writing today? so you could think and place things in order and you really at the end of the day you thought i got the guy, i got a good idea who he is. if i had to jump around you los that context. >> not only that, not just the context but if you can speak to, if you would write someone, an

event, whatever it was, you had the time and clearly theç wisd to place it in historical/cultural context which i think is missing today in a lot of what we get. >> i want to interview people twice. ideally in two different places. on the road first. and part of that, the athletes don't talk here as much as they used to. >> that's what i wanted to ask you about the dynamic between sports writer and athlete. i think about some of the stuff you wrote, billie jean king, jimmy breslin chasing joe namath. now we get five minutes with tiger not a minute more.

with tiger. it's harder to get to the high profile athletes. >> i can't remember the first time that i couldn't walk up to an athlete and say i want to do a story on you. at some point will was a manager or trainer or agent that intercreeded. >> we have to talk about the national. >> you achieved something remarkable. you burned through a lot of money as editor. how did this come together and how did it fail? >> it's a short story. it comes together because a guy in mexico who was then the richest man south of the ree owe grand wants to put out a daily sports newspaper. we burned through it because we paid big money to get people to

come in. this was 1990. we couldn't beat the 20th century. >> you had trouble -- you tried to duoupdated box scores and get that delivered. >> everybody wanted it. this is before internet. i notice now when i go out, usa today used to have all the scores. now you can get it on the internet. >> we had a rot of fun. i don't think spiderman has lost that much. >> you guys are now cult heroes ahead of your time. this was the web before there was the web.

>> a week after we started. i'm in west port, connecticut. i can't get the paper delivered to miç house and i'm the editor. i'm thinking we got a problem. >> it was beautiful. it was creative. and as you say, we have become a cult. >> absolutely. >> is there an athlete today? there is not going be a jacky robinson? is there an athlete today that can transcend sports and is a compelling character? somebody that you would like writing a biography about? or are we out of those kind of athletes? >> i can't think of anybody like that. the most fascinating thing is the tennis where you have got this extraordinary combination of champions. all of them pretty good guys.

i think looking back from that 30 years from now would be a good story. >> ra dicky. >> of the new york mets. climb the mountain, throws a knuckle ball like nobody else and is different. i'd like to sit down and have a drink with him. >> we had him on the show. he's a good guy. the book is "overtime." we will be right back. i don't spend money on gasoline.

i don't have to use gas. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. drive around town all the time doing errands and never ever have to fill up gas in the city. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. the last time i went to the gas station must have been about three months ago. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. ♪ thin coffee shops. people who i thave been out of work. you can that i forget how to put gas in my car. tell it wears on them. narrator: he's fought to pull us out of economic crisis for three years. and he still is. president obama's plan keeps taxes down for the middle class, invests in education and asks the wealthy to pay their fair share. mitt romney and his billionaire allies can spend milions to distort the president's words. but they're not interested in rebuilding the middle class. he is. i'm barack obama and i

>> this was a flan governor romney supported. it's a model that they looked at and said it would have the same kind of impact. it's time to get over the wait and implent the law.

>> this is an incident in massachusetts. there are 50 different states. governor romney understands that obama care will bankrupt our country and ruin the best health care delivery system in the world. >> it was more restrictive than the president's. >> governor romney believes as i do, that this law has to be repealed. this is far more than anything any state had ever comprehended or tried to do. >> get upç and take a look around. mark and donny, alex and in washington -- >> at the end of last week, after the decision was announced, the nation seemed torn between two sides. couldn't figure out where they

were going. okay? so the question this morning is based on that decision that was announced in all the papers, what happened with tom cruise and katie holmes? what do you think? >> contract was up. five years nearly around to the date. >> you really think it was a contractual date. >> you really think it was a contract date? >> yes. >> i was crushed. >> a lot of us were. >> in my mind i had that fleeting memory of love. do we have that clip? how could this end? he loved her? >> mike, i will reveal a little thing. we wept together overhe weekend. >> what did you say to me? i said mike, it's not your life. it doesn't mean your marriage is not working. >> and i said to you, the next thing we willsqó be told that a

travolta is out of the house. >> he clearly understood the definition of the word pivot. as a family man, i think i am glad that the kids are okay.ç i don't like to jump on to other people's hardships. >> you could spend your entire holiday week reading about this story and we will. i a "new york post" man. their coverage today is awesome. there was a van parked outside katie's secret new york apartment. there was guys in there and they are wisecracking and hilarious. >> i will give you one media insight. we have come to a place now where it's so fascinating. inside there is alec bald winn was on the cover of vanity fair.

on the cover is a flight attendent kissing him. it does not matter how celebrities stumble. the more they stumble the higher we elevate them. do we care about tom cruise as an actor? >> we will see a katie holmes vanity fair cover? >> if she wants it. >> before we ask for the insight, i think we ought to announce to the world that it is his birthday today. i think it is appropriate that we sing a verse of happy birthday. ♪ ♪ happy birthday to you >> i am with alex on this. the contract was up. i think, you know, she it issed five years, i have an option to get out, i'm getting out. that's my view of it.

>> have you seen theç "new yor post"? do they get anything in washington with all of the power outages down there? >> something strange -- >> scientology. >> possibly evil is part of the tweet. possibly evil about these people. double down on it. >> scientology back in news. very weird cult but big big money involved with tom cruise, either number two or three in hire arky. how long will it be before someone cancels rupert's tweeting ability? >> one of the ten biggest developments in the history of twitter. if you string them all together you get a decent book. >> let's get to the real world. a consumed congress for three

years. thursday's ruling surprised many court observers by preserving the health care law's individual mandate. on "meet the press" yesterday, nancy pelosi announced what could be a challenging issue for the white house. >> his own solicitor general went to the supreme court and said this is constitutional under the taxing authority of congress. >> it's a penalty that comes under the taxç code who may decide they are going to be free writers. >> no, no, no. it's not a tax. it's a penalty for free writers. >> you saw all the leaders out and nancy pelosi is probably the most ferocious defender of the

law and the republican leaders were, i thought, pretty good at finessing the fact that romney has to do it. there is a new poll that shows a slight uptick in the approval of the loss. i think you see both sides now. >> when asked how millions of americans could afford health care without the president's law. >> what specially are you going to do provide universal coverage to the 30 million people who are

uninsured. >> the question is how can you go step by step to improv the american health care system.ç >> you don't think it's an issue? >> we're not going to turn the american health care system into a western european system. >> alex? >> stumble bumble, the testify rens to the high risk pools. they don't have a plan. they got the repeal part down. the replace part is anyone's guest. >> what is your moderate middle of the road view of this? >> i feel like we are the same view on this. the problem that the republicans have and have always had is they

are always about repeal repeal repeal. there are millions of people benefitting from the affordable care act. and once again the republicans what will they say to people who are not being dumped from health care because their kids get sick. mitt romney, the nominee for president, are going to have to say specifically what they're going to do. the president has his plan. it wasç declared constitution. >> here is where the discussion is going go in the coming days

to the election. you remember the day after we killed aebl and there was a well deserved fervor? this is not a discussion that either side dramatically wins. obama got a bump because he is a winner now. but i think because it's muddy and viewers and consumers glaze over, i think both sides very quickly. they are going to go back to the economy. obama defending its stay the course. >> the republicans -- >> donny has a good point.

>> hold your right wrist up. >> my little daughter before she went to sleep gave me this. as we run into "morning joe" she is weeping now. my daughter is crying now. she is weeping now. >> i 'tis agree with a lot of what has been said. number one, there is a difference between the provisions that areç popular w have had universal coverage in this country. ther is a republican set of ideas. they don't go towards urine versal coverage. but in terms of romney, he is vague on a lot of things. will are holes in it.

the reason i don't think it's going to go away is because it is one of the strongest arguments about the economy. >> the more he talks about it. >> he is for repealing a law that isunpopular. >> it is expensive law. >> we will see. if that happens -- >> what was your question? >> he said he has a health care plan but there are holes in it. i am hard pressed to enunciate what they are. >> he has basically got three parts. he is for doing what -- for doing on medicare. he is for a bunch of stuff. >> one more time. >> you put the budget plan out there and that alone is a

complete revisitation. rr it is the last week of the election. am iç talking about health car or jobs day one? >> messages are single minded. >> on message, i mean, mark's reference to universal health care, nobody really knows what universal health care plan means because we have never had it and this health care proposal that has been ruled constitutional for the moment, it's incredible as smart as these people appear to be around president obama and the president himself that they have never been able to fully explain the benefits of the plan. >> i sat with people over the weekend, very smart people. we are all listening to the

insurance broker at the table. and nobody understand what the hell any of this means. if they start saying, look, the first president who really proposed universal health care was harry trueman. that is over 60 years ago. we finally achieved some sense of that. the oppositions idea is to destroy the whole thing. not component parts of it, the whole thing with no alternative. we waited 60 years to get this muchç and they want to take everything away. >> a lot of americans do but for whatever reason, people don't think we can afford universal

health care. i think the president can win that fight in good economic times easily. in bad economic times it's a lot harder. >> i agree with it. i don't understand how so many people you ref sensed ocean front, i don't understand again, i guess it gets back to a lack of explanation why so many people can be so opposed to a plan that 60% of it has not been implemented. >> i would take issue with that polling. i am sure we all look at the same poles. the americanelect rat is divided and a huge part of that is confusion. 45% disafwree. another 30% have no idea what is in there. once you start getting your check back from your insurance company, you know? once you start getting your

checks back. once you are noezçó longer deni coverage, once there is real world experience, i'm with you. i don't see how republicans will say that. >> that is a great argument but the proof is going to be, three month gs or whatever, how many democrats are going to put in their ads, i voted for the affordable care act. yun. >> i don't think it will beç kryptonite. >> this gets to another one of my theorietheories. what about this theory? that the opposition to health care, there is probably opposition to the health care plan. there is opposition. but a lot of the opposition is rooted into, ynz how i feel about obama himself. not so much the health care plan. >> i mean, that could be part of it. also as we saw over the weekend,

people were parsing out the opposition to obama care and there are some pop who don't like the affordable care act people who hate this law is even smaller. again, from stimulus to the health care law to a whole bunch of other things that the president has tried to do since coming into office in january 20, 2009, folks have used all sorts of arguments and policy disputes as proxy fights for the bigger thing. they just don't like this guy. it doesn't matter what he wants to do. they will oppose it. >> when we come back, the long good-bye. time magazine's joe klein talks about the massing of his parents and what he learned in the process. also, with much of the country

marred in a massive heat wave, it's a good time to talkç swimming. swimming's close connection. but first, here he is, the hottest guy around. bill karins with a check of the forecast. >> good morning. hope you had a wonderful weekend. here is what we're dealing with. the heat peaked over the weekend. it will be very hot. yesterday was an incredible day in the southeast. it doesn't happen. 105 in nashville to atlanta. everyone was on the hot if not extremely hot side. today as i mentioned, temperatures come down just a little bit. st. louis, you could go on a stretch here of ten straight days of 100 degree heat.

it does not look like that is going to change here. that will actually help cool you off. tuesday, no significant changes there at all. the heat expands in the west. we are watching salt lake city and montana getting hot. and then the fourth of july forecast. the big concern, strong cold front going through the northeast. that is going to spark strong thunderstorms. we have to watch the fire work displays. the big macy's one could be in new york city. tomorrow, another hot day in d.c. what else is new? hope you get your power on soonç with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card!

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>> well the supreme court has spoken and the constitutionality has been decided. what has not been decided yet is the debate of the effectiveness. perhaps the biggest resolved argument is the question of end of life care. and the harsh reality of knowing when to end it. time magazine took the issues head on with their june 11 cover with how we die.

is the and what we learned from his mom and dad's last days. >> mom died last november and dad died seven weeks later. >> what have you learned since that time. >> it was during that time. i moved them from classic fee for service medicare into a nursing home that uses the medical system, which is like the mayo clinic. they are paid salary and performance bonuses. people stopped sticking needles in my parents. weird specialists wereç remove and the most important thing was that the doctors started to talk to me as if i were a human being. they were candid, they told me the truth, and i became part of a team making the basic life and death decisions about my parents' lives. that made this very difficult process a lot better.

>> what did that mean to your parents? >> that their lives were not unnecessarily prolonged. my mom didn't want to be a vegetable. i found myself in a kitchen with a doctor saying they need to put in a feeding tube. and feeling guilty in a way, i said okay. that was a stupid decision in the end. when they lose their appetites they are telling you something. they are telling you it's time for me to go. >> how does a child, even an adult child make that decision? >> it's always going to be tough. if you have people who are being candid with you rather than -- most doctors are kind of high priests. they are the captain of their

ship. >> are you saying that some doctors intentionally lie? >> they are afraid of malpractice. >> did you find during the course of your parents last few years of life and i don't know what condition they were in, but did they tell you that it's time to let go? >> in my parents case, both were suffering with dementia and he

never wanted to let go. he thought old age was a reversible condition. bf i moved them into the nursing home i had like a floating amown of doctors to deal with. mom was rushed to the hospital three or four different times. >> the last five year of my dad's life was a nightmare because there were so many different drugs. i remember right after he died and you were getting all of -- all of his items that he brought in with him to the hospital.

instead of just looking at something vertically -- i'm a specialist in this area and i'm just looking at this area and you are getting this pill. then you get 30 different specialist. a hospital looks at the horizon and says wait a second. this sort of thing that is so critical, especially the final few years. another thing i want to touch on that is critical is what you said about doctor's own salary. instead of doctors being paid to perform tests. i couldn't walk. i was in cleveland. they rushed me. a ambulance rushed me to the cleveland clinic and the doctors said to me, we have got the best doctor in america. he came and looked and he goes

i'm not; going to do anything. what? and i was in pain. and he said i'm not going to do anything. you know what dogs do? they go into the corner until they feel better. i will hate that one. you will have a fusion at 40. it will collapse at 44. and by 50 you won't bebwalking. you know why he made that decision. at the cleveland clinic, they are paid by salary. it is a revolution that has to occur in health care. that's what you are talking about here. >> i have statistics. case managers, they are essentially nurses. two or three visit them. which is also a good thing.

with elderly parents, they talk to them a lot. what they found is by adding the case managers, the visits to the hospital were down 18%. readmissions were down 36% and the cost was down 7%. if we could reduce the cost 7%, it would be a huge deal. >> let me ask you quickly, you talked about policy. what have you learned about yourself over the past year since you have been through this? you said good-bye to both of your parents. >> what have i learned about myself? >> how has it changed you? >> it slowed me down. a lot. it made me more reflective. i began thinking through my life and it pushed me forward. it's all about my kids now. >> he rejects myç editorials.

>> mike, what about you? >> a lot of things strike me about my mother. she was a widow for 46 years. she reached a point within two or three weeks within the time that she passed, she got a mild heart attack and stroke and she knew it was time to go. she told me and my brother, you know, don't do anything. don't do anything. you finally, the both of you, you will be orphans. >> she said i don't want anything done. i am tired and i want to go. >> we could all hope that we're

going be there instead of where your father was which is where i fearly be. >> thank you very much. we will be right back. the postal service is critical to our economy,

delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet the house is considering a bill to close thousands of offices, slash service and layoff over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains $5 billion a year from post office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. house bill 2309 is not the answer.

>> let me tell you, one of the greatest. lawyers, guns and money. we're going to talk about money but not lawyers and guns right now. scott, spain won some big soccer deal, whatever it was. last week and over the weekend we keep reading stories that there is some sort of agreement or some sort of progress being made on the euro, keeping the euro together. keeping the nations together. what impact is that going to have here. >> a big one because it is the first monday morning that i can remember that we're not talking about europe straight off the bat. the markets had a tremendous gain on friday.

and now the focus turns back at least moment tearily on the domestic economy for a change. we start looking towards friday's jobs report. earnings are coming out. start the focus on those things. europe is still an issue. clearly there is a lot that has to be done there. there is the ratification of the agreement and other steps that are needed to happenç over the. for the time being, europe is not front and center. maybe it's china more than anything given the fact that the economy continues to slow. >> the best june since 1997, did you say? >> absolutely. obviously in part given what we did on friday, we had such a tremendous gain for the dow and may was such a bad month for stocks. they were molt sure what was going to happen in june. but the best since 1997.

right now the stock market looks decent. >> so you made a lot of money this june? >> i am conservative about this stuff. i was okay. it's very interesting. i never talked to more people in the market that are more unsure of the next six months. they just don't have a handle on it. >> the economic data has not been all that great. that is why the jobs report is so important. the uncertainty hanging around the election. there is continued uncertainty but by no means is the situation solved. there are so many head winds out there that have to factor into the whole thing. >> thanks very much. we appreciate it. we're going to tell you, we will be talking about that and we will talk about the connection

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>> i snuck down here. i tint know we were supposed to be here but i mentioned earlier that there was an old swimming pool that was built in 1933 for president roosevelt. these are the original tiles. i am standing at the deep end of that swimming pool. members of the press it's a tradition to sign the wall. president nixon in 1970 covered over the pool to create a briefing room. 500 miles of fiberoptic cables connecting with white house briefing room with the rest of the room.

look at the tile up here standing in the deep end and it goes all t way up to the shallow end. i am told there is no telling some of the stories that took place in this swimming pool. >> it is featured in the new book. swim. why we love the water. >> great to have you on television. the books are pretty, by the way. let's start with the wi]e house swimming pool. you write about him. >> part of what i have done and the book is basically a

celebration of mine and a lot of other people's love for swimming. but, i also -- to the history of swimming. the white house swimming pool where willie was just showing you was actually built in the 1930s when fdr became president because he had polio and the only form of exercise he could do was in the water. he used it for that. it was used by a number of other presidents including president kennedy for swimming and other things. >> what other things? >> and then the irony that it was bricked over for a press room by richard nixon. the idea that he wanted a press room rather than a swimming pool is extraordinary. one day nearly drowned but was

rescued. >> he was rescued skinny dipping? >> on that day he had worn his clothes, he was in a boat and the boat flipped over and his clothes weighed him down. >> let me ask you a question. when you get to a certain stage of your life and your knees go and you can't run, swim. >> it's all you haveç got left mike. >> that's about it. >> wow. okay. it gets so boring. >> no, no, no. swimming is the very best exercise you can do. it uses every major musle in your body. it also feels good. that liquid feeling on your skin. it is just fabulous. swimming in liquid silk. there is also some evidence that the fountain of youth may be

filled with chlorinated water. it helps slow down the aging process. >> i am just reading about, you earned a medal for finishing in an hour and 20 minutes? >> i did a big swim last summer. it's like it is up here. >> that's not relaxing. >> it was a challenge. >> yeah. >> what about the tide? >> there is big tides and currents. this was a big international race. i thought hay guys, i'm a journalist. i have to understand why so many people are going into open water so i swam. and won my age group. >> really i feel ashamed. we don't get off the couch. >> that's me wearing my medal. i had won my age group.

i have to say the next sentence. i was the only woman in my age group. >> oh, it's still cool. >>ç i have to bribe with my five-year-old daughter to get out of a body of water. there is something that draw you in. >> i think it is the hypnotic effect of the waves of the pool against the edge of the dock or the stream. i think there is something

that is how he found lip ration. >> indeed. swimming is such an important thing for many people with different physical challenges. sit a miracle. swimming as changed somewhat. it makes you a better person and it makes you a better voter. >> the book is swim. >> the book is swim. >> we are hard wired. we are hard wired. >> that's where it all began.

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